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Re: Rohnert Park Casino

Postby XEngr4Fed » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:23 am

PennyMoney wrote:Geeeez folks, for heaven's sake, things will calm down after a week or two. The crazies who HAD TO GO on the opening day created the traffic jams. Soon it will smooth out, and you can go back to Costco and Home Depot.

I don't plan on going because of the smoking allowed. I just don't like having stinky hear and stinky clothes. Lots of folks on fb mentioned the ventilation wasn't working to suck out the smoke.


You are absolutely right about the smoking. Anyway, things will smooth out.

I personally think that it's a plus for Rohnert Park. For years, some Petalumans have been dissing this town for one reason or another. It's time RP got something to put itself on the map. I don't gamble myself, but at least people won't be saying "What" Park....
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Re: Rohnert Park Casino

Postby PetalumaGal » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:51 am

Anyone remember that there were those who said that Petaluma Blvd. North would be gridlocked if the outlet mall was built? Well it only backs up a little at Christmas now.I believe that a month from now we won't have such bad casino traffic jams. Traffic on Hwy 101 sucks anyway.
I know a lot of toes were stomped on to get this casino built, but I am happy for all the people who have found jobs there.
People get mad at all the "breaks" that Native American tribes are getting. If you study the history of the west coast tribes, you'll see that true genocidal practices were used against them in the gold rush days. More west coast Native Americans perished than did the Plains Indians. These "breaks" that they are getting are ok with me.
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Re: Rohnert Park Casino

Postby mikeg55 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:21 pm

Press Democrat reporting things are much calmer today with no traffic issues.
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Re: Rohnert Park Casino

Postby Therewolf » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:53 pm

The casino itself I can take or leave, but I was interested in trying some of the restaurants, especially the 630 Park Steakhouse. Until I went to the website and checked out the menu.

$48.00 for the prime rib????? :o By the time you add in the extras (appetizers, wine, dessert) you're looking at a hundred bucks per person. Cattlemen's is half that or less...guess I'll stick with them.
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Re: Rohnert Park Casino

Postby wanderer » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:08 pm

I live in Petaluma. Last night at midnight my brother went there. 10 minutes to get there, and went right in. unfortunately all the slots were full, so he left....it has already calmed down...
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Re: Rohnert Park Casino

Postby whippis » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:45 pm

PetalumaGal wrote:People get mad at all the "breaks" that Native American tribes are getting. If you study the history of the west coast tribes, you'll see that true genocidal practices were used against them in the gold rush days. More west coast Native Americans perished than did the Plains Indians. These "breaks" that they are getting are ok with me.


Current people should not be compensated for alleged (and defined by current laws and values) wrongs done by one group to another. Even if native Americans have a legitimate claim against the State (which did not exist until 1851, of the U.S., which did not take the land until 1844) where does that leave the descendants of slaves or forced railroad laborers?

That kind of rationalization is detrimental: it has no basis in law or custom and serves to incentivize separation thinking vs. integration. No group should have rights denied other groups regardless of rationalization. It is undemocratic and unequal. You cannot right one “injustice” with another.
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Re: Rohnert Park Casino

Postby specvdriver » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:52 am

As far as I know, the US government did not sign treaties with slaves or railroad laborers declaring them sovereign nations.

Of course, that doesn't mean we can't invade them searching for WMDs or terrorists.
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Re: Rohnert Park Casino

Postby PetalumaPete » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:50 pm

An intellectual response.
What's seldom is wonderful.
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Re: Rohnert Park Casino

Postby whippis » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:59 am

specvdriver wrote:As far as I know, the US government did not sign treaties with slaves or railroad laborers declaring them sovereign nations.

Of course, that doesn't mean we can't invade them searching for WMDs or terrorists.


The U.S. gov't never signed any treaties with any of the “tribes” which have opened casinos in California (nor many other states). These “tribes” organize and seek recognition under laws which were designed to grant rights to actual tribes which did in fact make agreements with the United States. Tribes such as the Cherokee, Creek, Seminole, Chickasaw and Choctaw agreed to be moved from their land pursuant to the Indian Removal Act of 1830. In exchange for relocating these tribes were given land, rights and guarantees they they would basically be left alone and quasi-independent. However, U.S. Federal Law and the U.S. Constitution still apply to Indians who are U.S. citizens. State laws apply to them as well when they are not on Indian land. Regardless, the notion that these “tribes” are entitled to some special accommodations denied other citizens based on laws meant to address passed grievances are the worst kind of rationalization. They are merely taking advantage of laws poorly conceived and loosely interpreted.

Since there is a tremendous amount of money involved much political pressure can be brought to bear on gaining recognition for “tribes” with no historical identity nor legitimate claims against the U.S. Our friends at Federated Indians of Graton Rancheria I believe gained re-recognition with the aid of Sen. Boxer. Sen. Boxer’s son just happened to be involved with the developer who was partnered with the “tribe” at the time they were re-recognized.

The local California “tribes” such as the Federated Indians of Graton Rancheria or the Dry Creek Rancheria Band of Pomo Indians, both of whom who operate casinos, derive their land claims from the Rancheria system. The Rancheria system was implemented by the U.S. gov’t in the early 20th century which bought parcels for local Indians to live on rent free in an attempt to remove them from the local populations. Many went unused or unorganized until the depression when Indians suddenly learned they had a special right they heretofore largely ignored. The Federated Indians of Graton Rancheria lost their Federal recognition in the 1950s and only reapplied in 1992 after the first Indian casino opened in Connecticut (Foxwoods). Oddly, the land these casinos are built on is not the land established for the Rancheria but rather land either granted to them recently specifically for this purpose or land they purchase through the formation of a special corporation.

True, the U.S. had no treaties with slaves or railroad laborers per se and thankfully all that nastiness took place prior to the 14th Amendment. Lucky for the Indians that they scored a much better deal.
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Re: Rohnert Park Casino

Postby Leo18 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:18 pm

Yeah…thanks Mark Leno. I love the Casino. All of the complaining and whining about traffic and how there would be drunk drivers and crime, hasn't happened. Currently 2200 jobs, revenue to the community, gas station accounts, glass business accounts, deliveries of truckloads of sodas, food, paper products…the list goes on an on.

The County is benefiting…even though we have some whiners….

Good job Graton Casino. Nice addition to the community.
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